What is Blake thinking right now?

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#1 Jun 12, 2017 9:57pm
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What is Blake thinking right now?

Watching Durant hoist up a Larry O'Brian and a Finals MVP trophy at the same time has to make him wonder what could've been. Just think, Blake was suppose to have a moment in time like Durant had tonight. LeBron had it, Kwahi had it, Durant had it.. Blake was suppose to have 'next'. Maybe even before Durant got his which he did tonight. Not to mention the Warriors passing us up like we never existed when we were once the better team only a few years ago.. does he opt out or not, etc. Of course some blame goes all around- Doc, Ballmer, teammates, can't play with CP3,etc. But its a damn shame that outside of jumping over the Kia, he never never got a moment like this. 

Jun 12, 2017 10:53pm
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He was????  All those players you mentioned are much, much better than Blake. Why was he supposed to win anything?  Now, if Blake went back to being a PF instead of a SG,... naah, never going to happen.

Jun 12, 2017 11:32pm
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JGlanton wrote:

He was????  All those players you mentioned are much, much better than Blake. Why was he supposed to win anything?  Now, if Blake went back to being a PF instead of a SG,... naah, never going to happen.

Now they are yeah.. but if Blake kept improving on his rookie season he would be in the same breath as these guys. Wasn't he third in MVP voting a few years ago? Its just hard to fathom him being top 5 now cause he's became a shell of his former self.

Jun 13, 2017 8:03am
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You boys have a flare for the dramatic

Jun 13, 2017 8:27am
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If BG32 can play in beast mode like he did 3 years ago, we can compete w the Warriors... he just needs to be engaged and focus completely and also be in uniform.

Jun 13, 2017 9:43am
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He's thinking............."ouch my foot hurts".

Jun 13, 2017 10:06am
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He's thinking, "at least I'm not a pussy like Durant or CP0."

Jun 13, 2017 1:01pm
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He was the concensus #1 guy in a draft class that included Curry and Harden. He was a once in a life time talent. he had expectations that 1st overall picks like Lebron, Shaq, and Duncan had. The Clippers would be the #2 team if Blake played like he did 3 years ago. With all the injuries he's had and lousy coaching, I don't think he'll get there anymore. A great coach would help, though. He's still a pussy though.
Jun 13, 2017 1:42pm
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Clipps wrote:
He was the concensus #1 guy in a draft class that included Curry and Harden. He was a once in a life time talent. he had expectations that 1st overall picks like Lebron, Shaq, and Duncan had. The Clippers would be the #2 team if Blake played like he did 3 years ago. With all the injuries he's had and lousy coaching, I don't think he'll get there anymore. A great coach would help, though. He's still a pussy though.

"Hi Blake, I'm your new coach..............today we're going to practice not getting hurt"

Jun 13, 2017 1:56pm
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Yeah, because there's absolutely NO way a real coach could help Blake use his skill set better. I mean, we've given him geniuses like Mike Dunleavy, Vinny Del Negro, and Doc Rivers, and they haven't been able to do it. And player development is what Doc's best at!

Jun 13, 2017 2:57pm
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Agree with Glanton, Blake was never as good as those guys. I mean he was 3rd in MVP one year, while Durant has been MVP already and 2nd another time. He also could have been MVP this year or in the top 3-4 if he hadn't gotten injured. And Kawhi's skill set is just so much more important to today's game.

 

Blake would have to turn into Lebron pretty much to be on that level, otherwise he's fine casted as a number 2 option on a team built around his strengths and weaknesses.

Jun 13, 2017 3:14pm
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trapp76 wrote:

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He was the concensus #1 guy in a draft class that included Curry and Harden. He was a once in a life time talent. he had expectations that 1st overall picks like Lebron, Shaq, and Duncan had. The Clippers would be the #2 team if Blake played like he did 3 years ago. With all the injuries he's had and lousy coaching, I don't think he'll get there anymore. A great coach would help, though. He's still a pussy though.

"Hi Blake, I'm your new coach..............today we're going to practice not getting hurt"

"Quit shooting 20 footers, stupid"
Jun 13, 2017 5:11pm
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BG32 can be like Bron and actually was playing like his level and then he quit playing like that.. play hard for 48 minutes...

Jun 13, 2017 5:54pm
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trapp76 wrote:

He's thinking............."ouch my foot hurts".

yawn

Jun 13, 2017 8:35pm
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I honestly hope watching a team like the Warriors discuss taking less money for the chance to win, inspires our guys to skim a bit off their salaries for the purpose of competing. Unfortunately, I don't see that happening. 

Jun 14, 2017 3:18am
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V-Ice wrote:

BG32 can be like Bron and actually was playing like his level and then he quit playing like that.. play hard for 48 minutes...

Tell him that. not us.
Jun 14, 2017 6:38am
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Clipps wrote:

V-Ice wrote:

BG32 can be like Bron and actually was playing like his level and then he quit playing like that.. play hard for 48 minutes...

Tell him that. not us.

You seriously don't see the irony of you saying that to another poster here?

Jun 14, 2017 8:10am
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The harder Blake plays the more likely he is to get injured.  Quite the conundrum.  He isn't Lebron.  His body will not let him do what his mind wants him to do.  Blake has all the heart and work ethic you would ever want in a player.  Unfortunately, he just does not have the body that will hold up to that work ethic.  Not his fault.  Stupid to compare him to Lebron or any of these other stars.

Jun 14, 2017 9:46am
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Clippers1121 wrote:

The harder Blake plays the more likely he is to get injured.  Quite the conundrum.  He isn't Lebron.  His body will not let him do what his mind wants him to do.  Blake has all the heart and work ethic you would ever want in a player.  Unfortunately, he just does not have the body that will hold up to that work ethic.  

I don't want to be paying a guy max money if his "body will not hold up to his work ethic", especially come playoff time.

You have to give him a max deal to keep him, but after that, we need to look at trading him.

 

Jun 14, 2017 10:05am
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Clippers1121 wrote:

The harder Blake plays the more likely he is to get injured.  

Isn't that pretty much the exact opposite of what has happened?  He seems to get hurt more and more now that he's playing soft.  

Jun 14, 2017 11:24am
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Mistwell wrote:

Clipps wrote:

V-Ice wrote:

BG32 can be like Bron and actually was playing like his level and then he quit playing like that.. play hard for 48 minutes...

Tell him that. not us.

You seriously don't see the irony of you saying that to another poster here?

Sure. Another comment about how Blake can be so great, but he isn't for some reason because of playing soft. Why beat a dead horse?
Jun 14, 2017 12:13pm
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mannycoon wrote:

Clippers1121 wrote:

The harder Blake plays the more likely he is to get injured.  

Isn't that pretty much the exact opposite of what has happened?  He seems to get hurt more and more now that he's playing soft.  

Right on. Freak injuries happen. Blake has been unlucky but l much prefer the thunderous Blake to the jump shooting version Doc has turned him into. 

Jun 14, 2017 3:08pm
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Yeah, because there's absolutely NO way a real coach could help Blake use his skill set better. I mean, we've given him geniuses like Mike Dunleavy, Vinny Del Negro, and Doc Rivers, and they haven't been able to do it. And player development is what Doc's best at!

 

I actually think Vinny was the best we've had at player development. He also had Blake playing at a pretty high level. Doc got it in his head that he needs to save himself for the deep playoff runs that he would be going on. 

Blake wasn't broke, he was unguardable, they should have just left it alone. Blake needs the 7 second offense that Vinny played (that he learned from D'Antoni). Say what you will about that style, but the fucking Warriors are playing that style and they're being coached by the guy that built the fucking 06 Suns, it's not a coincidence. 

Jun 14, 2017 5:47pm
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Kerley wrote:

VFHS wrote:

Yeah, because there's absolutely NO way a real coach could help Blake use his skill set better. I mean, we've given him geniuses like Mike Dunleavy, Vinny Del Negro, and Doc Rivers, and they haven't been able to do it. And player development is what Doc's best at!

 

I actually think Vinny was the best we've had at player development. He also had Blake playing at a pretty high level. Doc got it in his head that he needs to save himself for the deep playoff runs that he would be going on. 

Blake wasn't broke, he was unguardable, they should have just left it alone. Blake needs the 7 second offense that Vinny played (that he learned from D'Antoni). Say what you will about that style, but the fucking Warriors are playing that style and they're being coached by the guy that built the fucking 06 Suns, it's not a coincidence. 

I agree.. everything has been downhill in all facets since Doc has came aboard

Jun 15, 2017 6:10am
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Vinny gave younger players like Bledsoe and DJ a chance to play, which is already an upgrade from Doc, but I didn't notice much in the way of development other than that. I do agree that Doc isn't using Blake right. But I also blame CP0. His insistence on dragging down the pace and dribbling out the shot clock makes running a Suns/Warriors-esque uptempo offense impossible.

What Doc and CP0 have been doing to Blake reminds me so much of what Dumbleavy did to Baron: they've forced him to play in a slow, plodding offense that doesn't work to his strengths. Granted, Baron was also a lazy, fat, overpaid malcontent during his time here (unlike Blake), so there were other problems back then.

Jun 15, 2017 7:57am
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I think Blake is thinking "Damn, I wish I hadn't been injured. Why does this keep happening to me, these freak injuries? I tried so hard to not risk my body until the playoffs, and it still fucking happened. Does God hate me or something? Fuck!"

Jun 15, 2017 9:26am
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Blake will be traded soon...bank on it.
Jun 15, 2017 11:02am
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babyradar01 wrote:
Blake will be traded soon...bank on it.

Blakes a free agent. 

I think if anyone is gone it's DJ to be honest. West just proved you can win multiple championships without a legit center. Javale McGee is a champion for fuck sake. 

Jun 15, 2017 4:51pm
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Baby could be right. He is a free agent but he needs a sign and trade to go to a team over the cap, and most the teams he'd want to go to are over the cap. It is entirely possible a sign and trade involving Blake is in the works. 

The Lebron stirrings seem to look more legit than I used to think they were too...this Jerry West thing along with the new stadium and the rumors of Lebron wanting to come here, it does all seem to fit something being in the works. 

Jun 15, 2017 5:12pm
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Kerley wrote:

I think if anyone is gone it's DJ to be honest. West just proved you can win multiple championships without a legit center. 

We should definitely grab all of the Draymond Green clones currently available to make that possible, here is the current complete list:

 

Also while we are at it, we should get any small forwards available that have the length of a legit defensive center, but the mobility and shooting ability of an elite guard.

Jun 15, 2017 6:06pm
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Blake:  Is Ballmer going to sign and trade me to Subway for Jared Fogle?

 

 

Also, his favorite sandwich is an Oven Roasted Chicken.

 

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http://nysportsjournalism.squarespace.com/qa-why-subway-stays-on-track-1/2010/10/27/qa-would-you-join-a-club-sandwich-that-has-michael-phelps-mi.html

 

Among their favorite sandwiches:
John Cena: Double Meat (various)
Michael Crabtree: Chicken And Bacon Ranch
Carl Edwards: Oven Roasted Chicken, Black Forest Ham
Jared Fogle: Subway Club
Blake Griffin:  Oven Roasted Chicken
Peter Griffin (Family Guy): Subway Feast
Ryan Howard: Big Philly Cheese Steak with Banana Peppers
Al Jefferson: Ham and Turkey on Wheat Bread
Meb Keflezighi: Turkey Sub, Meatball Sub
Kimmie Meissner: Turkey with Cheese
Tony Parker:  Chicken and Cheese
Michael Phelps: Meatball Marinara with Jalapeños, Turkey
CC Sabathia: Big Chipotle Cheese Steak
Michael Strahan: Subway Club
Ndamukong Suh: Oven Roasted Chicken; Breakfast Subs: Bacon and Eggs or Steak and Cheese
Justin Tuck: Breakfast Sandwich Egg Whites And Spinach

Jun 15, 2017 6:45pm
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NYSJ: Does any athlete in particular stand out with his or her favorite sandwich?

TP: When I met Tony Parker of the San Antonio Spurs, I asked him about his favorite sub. He immediately said, 'It's actually something that's not on the menu — Chicken and Cheese.' And I knew he was a real fan because at that time that was also my favorite sub. So I asked him, 'Great. But how do you make it?' He said, 'I order chicken on Italian bread with American cheese.' And I replied, 'Dude! You don't mix up the cheeses?' Because when I order it I say, 'Give me one portion of cheese, but do cheddar, provolone if they have it and Swiss.' And he said, 'I didn't think of that!'

Jun 15, 2017 8:17pm
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Kerley wrote:

babyradar01 wrote:
Blake will be traded soon...bank on it.

Blakes a free agent. 

I think if anyone is gone it's DJ to be honest. West just proved you can win multiple championships without a legit center. Javale McGee is a champion for fuck sake. 

So we're going to act like they don't have 4 all stars with two of them being MVP winners? *smh*

Jun 15, 2017 9:05pm
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We're also going to act like if one team does it, then that's the only way to do it?

Jun 16, 2017 1:03pm
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pro100 wrote:

Kerley wrote:

babyradar01 wrote:
Blake will be traded soon...bank on it.

Blakes a free agent. 

I think if anyone is gone it's DJ to be honest. West just proved you can win multiple championships without a legit center. Javale McGee is a champion for fuck sake. 

So we're going to act like they don't have 4 all stars with two of them being MVP winners? *smh*

 

But lets say we trade DJ and add Hayward or Paul George...now we're getting a lot closer to that blueprint. 

Jun 16, 2017 1:08pm
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Mistwell wrote:

We're also going to act like if one team does it, then that's the only way to do it?

 

No but it is the trend of the NBA. Size used to rule, now it's shooters. The days of the prototypical center are past. The Spurs have Leonard listed as PF and Gasol and Aldridge listed as centers. Even the Celtics are playing Al Horford as a center (he's been pretty much a PF for as long as I can remeber). 

Jun 16, 2017 1:45pm
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Horford has playing center basically his whole career, Josh Smith and Millsap played PF next him in Atlanta.  People have been saying for years and years that he's more of PF, but he almost never actually there.

And again the Warriors small lineups work because Draymond Green is an exceptional defensive player who more or less provides center type defense while also having a broader skill set, we have nobody like that, Blake certainly isn't that kind of player.  This year that was amplified even more by Durant who has the length of center, Durant was actually top 10 in blocks per game than this year, Green was 12th.  Bulk isn't as important as it used to be, but challenging shots at the basket still is.

The top 5 defensive teams this year all had legit rim protectors:  San Antonio (Aldridge, Gasol, Dedmon all chip in), Golden State (Green/Durant, plus whoever they use at center), Utah (Gobert), Atlanta (Howard), Miami (Whiteside).  Midrange and post up has gone out of style, but dribble penetration and pick and roll is more important than ever; also quality rim protection allows for tighter defense at the three point line.

Jun 16, 2017 2:14pm
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pro100 wrote:

Kerley wrote:

babyradar01 wrote:
Blake will be traded soon...bank on it.

Blakes a free agent. 

I think if anyone is gone it's DJ to be honest. West just proved you can win multiple championships without a legit center. Javale McGee is a champion for fuck sake. 

So we're going to act like they don't have 4 all stars with two of them being MVP winners? *smh*

The also didn't invest a huge chunk of their payroll on a one dimensional center.
Jun 16, 2017 6:35pm
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Clipps wrote:

pro100 wrote:

Kerley wrote:

babyradar01 wrote:
Blake will be traded soon...bank on it.

Blakes a free agent. 

I think if anyone is gone it's DJ to be honest. West just proved you can win multiple championships without a legit center. Javale McGee is a champion for fuck sake. 

So we're going to act like they don't have 4 all stars with two of them being MVP winners? *smh*

The also didn't invest a huge chunk of their payroll on a one dimensional center.

 

They didn't have to cause they drafted well..Extremely well-  Curry, Trace, Draymond. We don't draft or develop players under Doc

Jun 17, 2017 8:52am
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pro100 wrote:

Clipps wrote:

pro100 wrote:

Kerley wrote:

babyradar01 wrote:
Blake will be traded soon...bank on it.

Blakes a free agent. 

I think if anyone is gone it's DJ to be honest. West just proved you can win multiple championships without a legit center. Javale McGee is a champion for fuck sake. 

So we're going to act like they don't have 4 all stars with two of them being MVP winners? *smh*

The also didn't invest a huge chunk of their payroll on a one dimensional center.

 

They didn't have to cause they drafted well..Extremely well-  Curry, Trace, Draymond. We don't draft or develop players under Doc

Oh for fuck's sake, he's referring to DJ. WHO WE DRAFTED. WELL. IN THE SECOND ROUND. AND DEVELOPED. AND WHO THE GSW WANTED AND MADE A HUGE OFFER ON AND TRIED TO "INVEST" IN (including amnestying a player just to clear the cap space to make that offer on DJ). And yes, Doc contributed to his development.  Before Doc most of this board wanted to get rid of DJ (for anything). Doc convinced DJ he was a defensive player of the year type guy. And DJ thrived under that. 

Jun 17, 2017 10:49am
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All Doc did was play DJ in fourth quarters. By that logic, Vinny deserves just as much credit for giving DJ more playing time than Dumbleavy did. Doc ruined any hope of DJ ever contributing on offense without being spoonfed, and DJ was already capable of dunking, rebounding and blocking shots before Doc arrived. In the Doc era, DJ still hasn't added any new skills to his game, nor has he matured at all.

"Doc developed DJ" is one of the biggest myths going. He didn't scout DJ, he didn't draft DJ, he didn't elevate him from Kaman's seldom-used backup to a consistent contributor on the team. He told DJ to focus on being a role player because he was too lazy and stubborn to see if DJ was capable of more than that. If Doc had drafted DJ, he'd have been out of the league by now.

Fact is, Doc doesn't even try to develop players, and no amount of spinning can change reality. He won't give any playing time to young players unless either they're related to him or they came mostly pre-developed by the last coaching staff. Short of that, he is unwilling to put in the work.

Jun 17, 2017 1:32pm
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VFHS wrote:

All Doc did was play DJ in fourth quarters. By that logic, Vinny deserves just as much credit for giving DJ more playing time than Dumbleavy did. Doc ruined any hope of DJ ever contributing on offense without being spoonfed, and DJ was already capable of dunking, rebounding and blocking shots before Doc arrived. In the Doc era, DJ still hasn't added any new skills to his game, nor has he matured at all.

"Doc developed DJ" is one of the biggest myths going. He didn't scout DJ, he didn't draft DJ, he didn't elevate him from Kaman's seldom-used backup to a consistent contributor on the team. He told DJ to focus on being a role player because he was too lazy and stubborn to see if DJ was capable of more than that. If Doc had drafted DJ, he'd have been out of the league by now.

Fact is, Doc doesn't even try to develop players, and no amount of spinning can change reality. He won't give any playing time to young players unless either they're related to him or they came mostly pre-developed by the last coaching staff. Short of that, he is unwilling to put in the work.

Preach!

Jun 17, 2017 1:51pm
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Mistwell wrote:

pro100 wrote:

Clipps wrote:

pro100 wrote:

Kerley wrote:

babyradar01 wrote:
Blake will be traded soon...bank on it.

Blakes a free agent. 

I think if anyone is gone it's DJ to be honest. West just proved you can win multiple championships without a legit center. Javale McGee is a champion for fuck sake. 

So we're going to act like they don't have 4 all stars with two of them being MVP winners? *smh*

The also didn't invest a huge chunk of their payroll on a one dimensional center.

 

They didn't have to cause they drafted well..Extremely well-  Curry, Trace, Draymond. We don't draft or develop players under Doc

Oh for fuck's sake, he's referring to DJ. WHO WE DRAFTED. WELL. IN THE SECOND ROUND. AND DEVELOPED. AND WHO THE GSW WANTED AND MADE A HUGE OFFER ON AND TRIED TO "INVEST" IN (including amnestying a player just to clear the cap space to make that offer on DJ). And yes, Doc contributed to his development.  Before Doc most of this board wanted to get rid of DJ (for anything). Doc convinced DJ he was a defensive player of the year type guy. And DJ thrived under that. 

 

Doc didn't do that much for his development. If he really did DJ would at least have a baby 5 foot hook shot and a couple of post moves in the paint. Vinny The Black didn't play him late in ball games cause he couldn't hit free throws. Doc plays him in the 4th and he still doesn't make free throws. DJ is a better player than a few years ago but imo that's just his natural progression as a player from being in the league for 8 years or so.. not so much from Doc so-called coaching him up. 

 

-As for the main topic just hate how people are using the Warriors as the standard for something when they're basically an anomaly from Durant piggybacking a 73 win team for a easy ring/championship. They are beyond simply a superteam. They are one of the most stacked teams in the history of the game.

Jun 20, 2017 9:18pm
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this conversation is quite interesting.

Jun 21, 2017 11:00am
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Does anyone know how he's doing with his foot injury?  I read that the type of injury he suffered can be a career ender.   

Jun 21, 2017 10:12pm
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Sorry, thought this was important. 

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What if Blake can't pass a physical and may never be the same or even play again.  I can't find any article stating how his rehab is going.

Jun 22, 2017 1:49pm
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MadFlabby wrote:

Sorry, thought this was important. 

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What if Blake can't pass a physical and may never be the same or even play again.  I can't find any article stating how his rehab is going.

 I can't find any update.

 

Only recent news I found is this, which is about where else he would consider living.

 

http://www.weei.com/blogs/alex-reimer/blake-griffin-places-boston-his-mt-rushmore-nba-cities