Most disappointing Clipper this season?

79 posts / 0 new
Last post
Mar 3, 2018 1:27pm
VFHS
Offline
Last seen: 2 hours 39 min ago
Joined: Mar 8, 2013

trapp76 wrote:

Hitnrun24 wrote:

VFHS wrote:

Hitnrun24 wrote:

Pistons lose to Orlando now, yikes. Blakey with 12 points on 14 shots, is that good? Another almost triple double though so not all bad

Obsessed.

 

Of course. We have their pick, that matters to me. Not rooting for or against Blake either way, but I certainly want Detroit to lose every game.

Exactly. Any REAL Clipper fan should be monitoring Detroit closely, and hoping they lose as much as possible. If Blake has to perform poorly for them to lose, then any real Clipper fan would root for that to happen.

Rooting for losses is fine since it helps our draft pick. Tracking Blake's box scores and gloating is where the obsession comes in.

Mar 3, 2018 2:40pm
clipsentuboca
Offline
Last seen: 3 hours 58 min ago
Joined: Dec 6, 2011

does anyone want to admit they are disappointed Blake didn’t blow up with 26/10/6 in Detroit? 

Mar 3, 2018 4:41pm
Hitnrun24
Offline
Last seen: 1 hour 50 min ago
Joined: Dec 6, 2011

VFHS wrote:

trapp76 wrote:

Hitnrun24 wrote:

VFHS wrote:

Hitnrun24 wrote:

Pistons lose to Orlando now, yikes. Blakey with 12 points on 14 shots, is that good? Another almost triple double though so not all bad

Obsessed.

 

Of course. We have their pick, that matters to me. Not rooting for or against Blake either way, but I certainly want Detroit to lose every game.

Exactly. Any REAL Clipper fan should be monitoring Detroit closely, and hoping they lose as much as possible. If Blake has to perform poorly for them to lose, then any real Clipper fan would root for that to happen.

Rooting for losses is fine since it helps our draft pick. Tracking Blake's box scores and gloating is where the obsession comes in.

 

Well when you're talking about the Pistons, it's a pretty on topic subject. Especially when some fans were going on about how bad this trade would be for us when the rational ones in the group were trying to point out that while he was a beloved Clipper, the team would be fine after the trade in the short term and a hell of a lot better off in the long run.

 

Would you rather us be loyal and be mediocre or suck for years like the Lakers did with Kobe? I have nothing against Blake, he will still be one of my favorite Clippers ever but I'd rather be better than mediocre and get to root for Blake for the rest of his career.

Mar 4, 2018 6:26pm
trapp76
Offline
Last seen: 1 hour 21 min ago
Joined: Oct 28, 2011
VFHS wrote:

trapp76 wrote:

Hitnrun24 wrote:

VFHS wrote:

Hitnrun24 wrote:

Pistons lose to Orlando now, yikes. Blakey with 12 points on 14 shots, is that good? Another almost triple double though so not all bad

Obsessed.

 

Of course. We have their pick, that matters to me. Not rooting for or against Blake either way, but I certainly want Detroit to lose every game.

Exactly. Any REAL Clipper fan should be monitoring Detroit closely, and hoping they lose as much as possible. If Blake has to perform poorly for them to lose, then any real Clipper fan would root for that to happen.

Rooting for losses is fine since it helps our draft pick.

Yeah it is, you should start doing it..........we are waiting.
Mar 5, 2018 3:47am
Shaliq
Offline
Last seen: 6 days 3 hours ago
Joined: Jan 23, 2012
mannycoon wrote:
Blake Griffin. Had a chance to step up with Paul gone and had the worst season of his career leading to the trade.
Hmm, I see what you mean there... You do have a valid point. I hear you. Apart from Griffin, I'd say Gallo.
Mar 5, 2018 10:29am
ClipperSisyphus
Offline
Last seen: 28 min 27 sec ago
Joined: Nov 1, 2011

Shaliq wrote:
mannycoon wrote:
Blake Griffin. Had a chance to step up with Paul gone and had the worst season of his career leading to the trade.
Hmm, I see what you mean there... You do have a valid point. I hear you. Apart from Griffin, I'd say Gallo.

Is this the FIRST TIME someone on this board has ever agreed with the previous poster's evaluation of a player?

Mar 5, 2018 4:01pm
Clipps
Offline
Last seen: 2 hours 52 min ago
Joined: May 4, 2015

ClipperSisyphus wrote:

Shaliq wrote:
mannycoon wrote:
Blake Griffin. Had a chance to step up with Paul gone and had the worst season of his career leading to the trade.
Hmm, I see what you mean there... You do have a valid point. I hear you. Apart from Griffin, I'd say Gallo.

Is this the FIRST TIME someone on this board has ever agreed with the previous poster's evaluation of a player?

I doubt it. With all the Gomes', Dudleys', Hawes', and Farmars' of the world, I'm pretty sure player evaluations have been pretty common.

Mar 5, 2018 4:43pm
tullabye
Offline
Last seen: 11 min 58 sec ago
Joined: Nov 11, 2011

Clipps wrote:

ClipperSisyphus wrote:

Shaliq wrote:
mannycoon wrote:
Blake Griffin. Had a chance to step up with Paul gone and had the worst season of his career leading to the trade.
Hmm, I see what you mean there... You do have a valid point. I hear you. Apart from Griffin, I'd say Gallo.

Is this the FIRST TIME someone on this board has ever agreed with the previous poster's evaluation of a player?

I doubt it. With all the Gomes', Dudleys', Hawes', and Farmars' of the world, I'm pretty sure player evaluations have been pretty common.

Right on

Mar 6, 2018 9:13am
trapp76
Offline
Last seen: 1 hour 21 min ago
Joined: Oct 28, 2011

trapp76 wrote:
VFHS wrote:

trapp76 wrote:

Hitnrun24 wrote:

VFHS wrote:

Hitnrun24 wrote:

Pistons lose to Orlando now, yikes. Blakey with 12 points on 14 shots, is that good? Another almost triple double though so not all bad

Obsessed.

 

Of course. We have their pick, that matters to me. Not rooting for or against Blake either way, but I certainly want Detroit to lose every game.

Exactly. Any REAL Clipper fan should be monitoring Detroit closely, and hoping they lose as much as possible. If Blake has to perform poorly for them to lose, then any real Clipper fan would root for that to happen.

Rooting for losses is fine since it helps our draft pick.

Yeah it is, you should start doing it..........we are waiting.

Pistons lose again last night, tied with Lakers in loss column and only one loss back of Charlotte. Things fall right for us, that pick could be as high as #10.

Mar 6, 2018 11:37am
Mistwell
Offline
Last seen: 3 hours 33 min ago
Joined: Oct 17, 2011

trapp76 wrote:

trapp76 wrote:
VFHS wrote:

trapp76 wrote:

Hitnrun24 wrote:

VFHS wrote:

Hitnrun24 wrote:

Pistons lose to Orlando now, yikes. Blakey with 12 points on 14 shots, is that good? Another almost triple double though so not all bad

Obsessed.

 

Of course. We have their pick, that matters to me. Not rooting for or against Blake either way, but I certainly want Detroit to lose every game.

Exactly. Any REAL Clipper fan should be monitoring Detroit closely, and hoping they lose as much as possible. If Blake has to perform poorly for them to lose, then any real Clipper fan would root for that to happen.

Rooting for losses is fine since it helps our draft pick.

Yeah it is, you should start doing it..........we are waiting.

Pistons lose again last night, tied with Lakers in loss column and only one loss back of Charlotte. Things fall right for us, that pick could be as high as #10.

If we get a top 10 pick out of this, and Jerry West pulls his magic with that pick, this trade will go down as excellent for us. I did not see the Pistons drop-off coming this hard after this trade. Their fans are in complete melt-down right now, though most of the blame is focused on the coach rather than Blake.

Mar 6, 2018 11:44am
ClipperSisyphus
Offline
Last seen: 28 min 27 sec ago
Joined: Nov 1, 2011

Mistwell wrote:

trapp76 wrote:

trapp76 wrote:
VFHS wrote:

trapp76 wrote:

Hitnrun24 wrote:

VFHS wrote:

Hitnrun24 wrote:

Pistons lose to Orlando now, yikes. Blakey with 12 points on 14 shots, is that good? Another almost triple double though so not all bad

Obsessed.

 

Of course. We have their pick, that matters to me. Not rooting for or against Blake either way, but I certainly want Detroit to lose every game.

Exactly. Any REAL Clipper fan should be monitoring Detroit closely, and hoping they lose as much as possible. If Blake has to perform poorly for them to lose, then any real Clipper fan would root for that to happen.

Rooting for losses is fine since it helps our draft pick.

Yeah it is, you should start doing it..........we are waiting.

Pistons lose again last night, tied with Lakers in loss column and only one loss back of Charlotte. Things fall right for us, that pick could be as high as #10.

If we get a top 10 pick out of this, and Jerry West pulls his magic with that pick, this trade will go down as excellent for us. I did not see the Pistons drop-off coming this hard after this trade. Their fans are in complete melt-down right now, though most of the blame is focused on the coach rather than Blake.

We can't have Detroit go through a total meltdown. Their pick is top 4 protected through 2020.

Mar 6, 2018 11:54am
Mistwell
Offline
Last seen: 3 hours 33 min ago
Joined: Oct 17, 2011

ClipperSisyphus wrote:

Mistwell wrote:

trapp76 wrote:

trapp76 wrote:
VFHS wrote:

trapp76 wrote:

Hitnrun24 wrote:

VFHS wrote:

Hitnrun24 wrote:

Pistons lose to Orlando now, yikes. Blakey with 12 points on 14 shots, is that good? Another almost triple double though so not all bad

Obsessed.

 

Of course. We have their pick, that matters to me. Not rooting for or against Blake either way, but I certainly want Detroit to lose every game.

Exactly. Any REAL Clipper fan should be monitoring Detroit closely, and hoping they lose as much as possible. If Blake has to perform poorly for them to lose, then any real Clipper fan would root for that to happen.

Rooting for losses is fine since it helps our draft pick.

Yeah it is, you should start doing it..........we are waiting.

Pistons lose again last night, tied with Lakers in loss column and only one loss back of Charlotte. Things fall right for us, that pick could be as high as #10.

If we get a top 10 pick out of this, and Jerry West pulls his magic with that pick, this trade will go down as excellent for us. I did not see the Pistons drop-off coming this hard after this trade. Their fans are in complete melt-down right now, though most of the blame is focused on the coach rather than Blake.

We can't have Detroit go through a total meltdown. Their pick is top 4 protected through 2020.

Unless their pick rises because of ping-pong balls I am not worried. Too many bad teams had a massive head start on the race to the bottom. I mean, of course anything can happen with a lottery, but I don't see the odds being good for Pistons to get a top pick. My guess is it lands 10-12.  Though with an injury or two, they could rise as high as maybe 8-9? But that's very unlikely. 

New quote from the Pistons Board, "Steve Ballmer has now given us Blake Griffin and Windows ME. What a dick. "

LOL

Mar 6, 2018 12:00pm
V-Ice
Offline
Last seen: 1 hour 21 min ago
Joined: Nov 27, 2011

Mistwell: which Pistons board?

Mar 6, 2018 1:03pm
nuraman00
Offline
Last seen: 3 days 5 hours ago
Joined: Oct 6, 2011

clipsentuboca wrote:

does anyone want to admit they are disappointed Blake didn’t blow up with 26/10/6 in Detroit? 

 

I stopped expecting rebounds years ago.

Mar 6, 2018 2:53pm
VFHS
Offline
Last seen: 2 hours 39 min ago
Joined: Mar 8, 2013

Sadly, I wouldn't be surprised at all to see the Pistons' pick somehow end up in the Top 4. That would fit the theme of this season: other teams not helping the Clippers.

Mar 6, 2018 3:12pm
trapp76
Offline
Last seen: 1 hour 21 min ago
Joined: Oct 28, 2011

VFHS wrote:

Sadly, I wouldn't be surprised at all to see the Pistons' pick somehow end up in the Top 4. That would fit the theme of this season: other teams not helping the Clippers.

..............I wouldn't be surprised at that either, since they are SO SO bad now. Agree 100%. If only they had some good players, they wouldn't be so bad.

Mar 8, 2018 3:50pm
trapp76
Offline
Last seen: 1 hour 21 min ago
Joined: Oct 28, 2011

Crazy that we have given 2,684 minutes to Austin Rivers (1425) and Wes Johnson (1259) this season at a combined price of 18 million. Two players with production that can basically be replaced by G-league types for hardly any money.

This is why the Beverley injury was the most disappointing thing that happened IMO. It could have been helped when Bradley was acquired but then he went down too. We coulda been sitting in the 3 seed right now if Beverley had not gone down with that season ending injury, even despite all the other injuries. But it's hard to be shocked, he does have a history of getting hurt and that is the chance you take acquiring that type of player. Now imagine if we could replace those minutes in 2019 with Klay Thompson or Kawhi Leonard. We could be right back to where we were before the CP trade (a 55 win team), within two years after it.

Just getting Beverley back relatively healthy next season and maybe adding another wing with the Pistons pick to replace the minutes we gave to Austin/Wes would do wonders for us.

Mar 8, 2018 3:32pm
JGlanton
Offline
Last seen: 53 min 51 sec ago
Joined: Oct 9, 2011

Yeah, 2000 minutes of Beverley would have had us on a very different path this season

Mar 8, 2018 4:08pm
Mistwell
Offline
Last seen: 3 hours 33 min ago
Joined: Oct 17, 2011

Beverley was my answer too. Everyone bitching about Gallo because of his paycheck, but bottom line is Beverley is the best player we have that isn't playing and who was most needed by our team. He was the guy who Houston fans said, "Ouch, that's gonna smart" when we got him in the CP3 trade you may recall. 

Mar 8, 2018 4:26pm
nuraman00
Offline
Last seen: 3 days 5 hours ago
Joined: Oct 6, 2011

Mistwell wrote:

Beverley was my answer too. Everyone bitching about Gallo because of his paycheck, but bottom line is Beverley is the best player we have that isn't playing and who was most needed by our team. He was the guy who Houston fans said, "Ouch, that's gonna smart" when we got him in the CP3 trade you may recall. 

 

I didn't even think Houston was going to give up Beverly.  When I heard Paul was traded, I thought "A Paul and Beverly lineup in Houston looks good".  I thought they'd keep him for their playoffs run.

Mar 8, 2018 10:08pm
tullabye
Offline
Last seen: 11 min 58 sec ago
Joined: Nov 11, 2011

trapp76 wrote:

Crazy that we have given 2,684 minutes to Austin Rivers (1425) and Wes Johnson (1259) this season at a combined price of 18 million. Two players with production that can basically be replaced by G-league types for hardly any money.

This is why the Beverley injury was the most disappointing thing that happened IMO. It could have been helped when Bradley was acquired but then he went down too. We coulda been sitting in the 3 seed right now if Beverley had not gone down with that season ending injury, even despite all the other injuries. But it's hard to be shocked, he does have a history of getting hurt and that is the chance you take acquiring that type of player. Now imagine if we could replace those minutes in 2019 with Klay Thompson or Kawhi Leonard. We could be right back to where we were before the CP trade (a 55 win team), within two years after it.

Just getting Beverley back relatively healthy next season and maybe adding another wing with the Pistons pick to replace the minutes we gave to Austin/Wes would do wonders for us.

You’ve got to be kidding. Holding most of the good pieces we have now and adding Kawhi would make us better, Thompson would make us that much better.

Mar 9, 2018 10:19am
trapp76
Offline
Last seen: 1 hour 21 min ago
Joined: Oct 28, 2011

tullabye wrote:

trapp76 wrote:

Crazy that we have given 2,684 minutes to Austin Rivers (1425) and Wes Johnson (1259) this season at a combined price of 18 million. Two players with production that can basically be replaced by G-league types for hardly any money.

This is why the Beverley injury was the most disappointing thing that happened IMO. It could have been helped when Bradley was acquired but then he went down too. We coulda been sitting in the 3 seed right now if Beverley had not gone down with that season ending injury, even despite all the other injuries. But it's hard to be shocked, he does have a history of getting hurt and that is the chance you take acquiring that type of player. Now imagine if we could replace those minutes in 2019 with Klay Thompson or Kawhi Leonard. We could be right back to where we were before the CP trade (a 55 win team), within two years after it.

Just getting Beverley back relatively healthy next season and maybe adding another wing with the Pistons pick to replace the minutes we gave to Austin/Wes would do wonders for us.

You’ve got to be kidding. 

About what?

 

Mar 9, 2018 11:34am
nuraman00
Offline
Last seen: 3 days 5 hours ago
Joined: Oct 6, 2011

tullabye wrote:

trapp76 wrote:

Crazy that we have given 2,684 minutes to Austin Rivers (1425) and Wes Johnson (1259) this season at a combined price of 18 million. Two players with production that can basically be replaced by G-league types for hardly any money.

This is why the Beverley injury was the most disappointing thing that happened IMO. It could have been helped when Bradley was acquired but then he went down too. We coulda been sitting in the 3 seed right now if Beverley had not gone down with that season ending injury, even despite all the other injuries. But it's hard to be shocked, he does have a history of getting hurt and that is the chance you take acquiring that type of player. Now imagine if we could replace those minutes in 2019 with Klay Thompson or Kawhi Leonard. We could be right back to where we were before the CP trade (a 55 win team), within two years after it.

Just getting Beverley back relatively healthy next season and maybe adding another wing with the Pistons pick to replace the minutes we gave to Austin/Wes would do wonders for us.

You’ve got to be kidding. Holding most of the good pieces we have now and adding Kawhi would make us better, Thompson would make us that much better.

 

I think trapp76 is saying the same thing here, about adding Thompson or Leonard:

 

+++++++++++++++++

 

Now imagine if we could replace those minutes in 2019 with Klay Thompson or Kawhi Leonard. We could be right back to where we were before the CP trade (a 55 win team), within two years after it.

Mar 11, 2018 3:20pm
Mar 11, 2018 3:25pm
tullabye
Offline
Last seen: 11 min 58 sec ago
Joined: Nov 11, 2011
I am stating that we would be a much better team than before the CP trade.
Mar 11, 2018 3:53pm (Reply to #76)
VFHS
Offline
Last seen: 2 hours 39 min ago
Joined: Mar 8, 2013
nuraman00 wrote:

tullabye wrote:

trapp76 wrote:

Crazy that we have given 2,684 minutes to Austin Rivers (1425) and Wes Johnson (1259) this season at a combined price of 18 million. Two players with production that can basically be replaced by G-league types for hardly any money.

This is why the Beverley injury was the most disappointing thing that happened IMO. It could have been helped when Bradley was acquired but then he went down too. We coulda been sitting in the 3 seed right now if Beverley had not gone down with that season ending injury, even despite all the other injuries. But it's hard to be shocked, he does have a history of getting hurt and that is the chance you take acquiring that type of player. Now imagine if we could replace those minutes in 2019 with Klay Thompson or Kawhi Leonard. We could be right back to where we were before the CP trade (a 55 win team), within two years after it.

Just getting Beverley back relatively healthy next season and maybe adding another wing with the Pistons pick to replace the minutes we gave to Austin/Wes would do wonders for us.

You’ve got to be kidding. Holding most of the good pieces we have now and adding Kawhi would make us better, Thompson would make us that much better.

 

I think trapp76 is saying the same thing here, about adding Thompson or Leonard:

 

+++++++++++++++++

 

Now imagine if we could replace those minutes in 2019 with Klay Thompson or Kawhi Leonard. We could be right back to where we were before the CP trade (a 55 win team), within two years after it.

Why are you guys lumping Kawhi and Klay together as if they're the same caliber of player? Kawhi is a perennial MVP candidate and arguably the second best player in the world when healthy. Klay isn't even close to being that good.
Mar 11, 2018 4:43pm (Reply to #77)
ClipperSisyphus
Offline
Last seen: 28 min 27 sec ago
Joined: Nov 1, 2011

JGlanton wrote:

Danilo Gallinari tells ClutchPoints the swelling and discoloration in his hand has gone down and that in about 7-8 days, he’ll have an examination to determine whether or not he will need surgery. 

Gallo broke his right hand twice and each butt cheek once in the last 8 months. I like the versatility he brings but he has been incredibly unreliable.

Mar 11, 2018 6:44pm (Reply to #78)
pageC4
Offline
Last seen: 3 weeks 4 days ago
Joined: Jul 24, 2014
BlakeG4MVP wrote:

japkilla wrote:

gallo has been the most disappointing. this guy should be in back of a milk carton

is it possible to trade gallo in the offseason for atleast late first round pick. Lets move on from his overbloated handicapped contract ass

A team with cap space don’t mind taking on the last 2 years of Gallo contract. But the clippers need to sweeten the deal by adding the Pistons #1 in it . Otherwise we are stuck with him . It’s a salary dump. 

Let's not repeat the Baron Davis fiasco. When you take on a bad contract and can't unload it don't make it worse by also mortgaging the future. Doc gave away so many draft picks, and we need to keep what we have now