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Jun 16, 2017 10:11am
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Do you guys think Jerry West can talk CP and Blake to take less than max deal so we can fill out the roster? 

Jun 16, 2017 10:35am
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MadFlabby wrote:

Do you guys think Jerry West can talk CP and Blake to take less than max deal so we can fill out the roster? 

Even if they took less than the max we still would not have cap space to "fill out the roster", unless they were taking DRASTICALLY less than max.  We already have Crawford, Rivers, and DJ signed to larger deals (with DJ being a very large deal). 

Jun 16, 2017 10:44am
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^i don't see any of the 2 taking less. However I do see West may wanting to move Dj or Jr or JC.. 

Jun 16, 2017 10:52am
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I'm not understanding all the Jerry West will trade DJ talk.  Isn't this the same Jerry West who tried to sign DJ when he was with the warriors some years back?

Jun 16, 2017 11:01am
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pip33 wrote:

I'm not understanding all the Jerry West will trade DJ talk.  Isn't this the same Jerry West who tried to sign DJ when he was with the warriors some years back?

West joined the Warriors on 2011-05-20.  So that timing lines up.

 

http://prosportstransactions.com/basketball/Search/SearchResults.php?Player=Jerry+West&Team=&BeginDate=&EndDate=&PlayerMovementChkBx=yes&Submit=Search

Jun 16, 2017 11:02am
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^im only saying this, because Dj's trade value might be high going into next weeks draft...  

Jun 16, 2017 11:17am
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I still like the scenario of Sign and Trade Redick and Austin Rivers for Melo, if that's possible (not sure if you can combine players in a sign and trade under the new CBA). JC still has one year on his contract after this so he is harder to move, but not impossible.  It might have to be Austin and Crawford for Melo, and sign and trade Redick for Lee, to make it work (might need to include one of our rookies in that deal, which I'd be OK with as we're just not going to ever use them I suspect). Not sure New York is up for that but given their interest last season and the risks involved with Melo, they might be willing to do it.

If they are willing to do that, that would leave our bench pretty darn thin but a much improved starting 5. And then there is the question as to whether Wade wants to play here for the MLE if Melo and Lee also came here. CP3, Wade, Melo, BG, and DJ is a very good starting lineup.  Our bench would have Lee and Johnson, and if they are willing to stay another year Luc, Speights, Felton and/or Bass (and our two rookies of course). Though I expect if Melo, Lee and Wade did come here and BG and CP3 signed again, we could attract some better free agents at the vet minimum to fill out that bench better. 

Does that lineup beat GSW? Probably not.  But I think it's enough to get to the WCF to find out. And it also would put us in a position to trade BG for a sign and trade deal on Lebron next year. 

I don't think any of this is crazy unrealistic.  It's not on the probable side of things, but I think it's within the realm of potentially doable. 

Jun 16, 2017 11:08am
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Jun 16, 2017 11:43am
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Mistwell wrote:

I still like the scenario of Sign and Trade Redick and Austin Rivers for Melo, if that's possible (not sure if you can combine players in a sign and trade under the new CBA). JC still has one year on his contract after this so he is harder to move, but not impossible.  It might have to be Austin and Crawford for Melo, and sign and trade Redick for Lee, to make it work (might need to include one of our rookies in that deal, which I'd be OK with as we're just not going to ever use them I suspect). Not sure New York is up for that but given their interest last season and the risks involved with Melo, they might be willing to do it.

If they are willing to do that, that would leave our bench pretty darn thin but a much improved starting 5. And then there is the question as to whether Wade wants to play here for the MLE if Melo and Lee also came here. CP3, Wade, Melo, BG, and DJ is a very good starting lineup.  Our bench would have Lee and Johnson, and if they are willing to stay another year Luc, Speights, Felton and/or Bass (and our two rookies of course). Though I expect if Melo, Lee and Wade did come here and BG and CP3 signed again, we could attract some better free agents at the vet minimum to fill out that bench better. 

Does that lineup beat GSW? Probably not.  But I think it's enough to get to the WCF to find out. And it also would put us in a position to trade BG for a sign and trade deal on Lebron next year. 

I don't think any of this is crazy unrealistic.  It's not on the probable side of things, but I think it's within the realm of potentially doable. 

JC only has a partially guaranteed contract after this year.

Jun 16, 2017 12:29pm
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gilp5 wrote:

Mistwell wrote:

I still like the scenario of Sign and Trade Redick and Austin Rivers for Melo, if that's possible (not sure if you can combine players in a sign and trade under the new CBA). JC still has one year on his contract after this so he is harder to move, but not impossible.  It might have to be Austin and Crawford for Melo, and sign and trade Redick for Lee, to make it work (might need to include one of our rookies in that deal, which I'd be OK with as we're just not going to ever use them I suspect). Not sure New York is up for that but given their interest last season and the risks involved with Melo, they might be willing to do it.

If they are willing to do that, that would leave our bench pretty darn thin but a much improved starting 5. And then there is the question as to whether Wade wants to play here for the MLE if Melo and Lee also came here. CP3, Wade, Melo, BG, and DJ is a very good starting lineup.  Our bench would have Lee and Johnson, and if they are willing to stay another year Luc, Speights, Felton and/or Bass (and our two rookies of course). Though I expect if Melo, Lee and Wade did come here and BG and CP3 signed again, we could attract some better free agents at the vet minimum to fill out that bench better. 

Does that lineup beat GSW? Probably not.  But I think it's enough to get to the WCF to find out. And it also would put us in a position to trade BG for a sign and trade deal on Lebron next year. 

I don't think any of this is crazy unrealistic.  It's not on the probable side of things, but I think it's within the realm of potentially doable. 

JC only has a partially guaranteed contract after this year.

Ah that makes him easier to move.  I can see New York doing a deal of Austin and JC for Melo, and sign and trade Redick for Lee, given that fact. Or however those pieces need to be juggled, I think that puts it more into the realm of possible. 

Jun 16, 2017 2:09pm
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nuraman00 wrote:

pip33 wrote:

I'm not understanding all the Jerry West will trade DJ talk.  Isn't this the same Jerry West who tried to sign DJ when he was with the warriors some years back?

West joined the Warriors on 2011-05-20.  So that timing lines up.

 

http://prosportstransactions.com/basketball/Search/SearchResults.php?Player=Jerry+West&Team=&BeginDate=&EndDate=&PlayerMovementChkBx=yes&Submit=Search

 

Thanks, that explains why!

Jun 16, 2017 2:24pm
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Corkscrew's sexy seductive siren call to West in 2012 helped lure him to the Clippers.

 

CorkScrew Oct 23, 2012 12:25pm wrote:

Wait, my son has a pic:

 

Jun 16, 2017 3:09pm
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nuraman00 wrote:

Thoughts from DoubleTechnicalOlowokandi34jewelthoughplaywitheartDyce?

Championship is coming!!

Jun 16, 2017 3:23pm
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Olowokandi34 wrote:

nuraman00 wrote:

Thoughts from DoubleTechnicalOlowokandi34jewelthoughplaywitheartDyce?

Championship is coming!!

 

Jerry West should prepare championship belts which have both the Clippers logo, and the NBA Logo, on them.

 

Don't let Ballmer try to sneak a DOS logo on there.

Jun 16, 2017 3:38pm
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pip33 wrote:

I'm not understanding all the Jerry West will trade DJ talk.  Isn't this the same Jerry West who tried to sign DJ when he was with the warriors some years back?

From 2011:

Jerry West on DeAndre Jordan: "I'm just not really sure about him"

http://blog.sfgate.com/warriors/2011/12/11/jerry-west-on-deandre-jordan-im-just-not-really-sure-about-him/

Jun 16, 2017 5:13pm
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VFHS wrote:

pip33 wrote:

I'm not understanding all the Jerry West will trade DJ talk.  Isn't this the same Jerry West who tried to sign DJ when he was with the warriors some years back?

From 2011:

Jerry West on DeAndre Jordan: "I'm just not really sure about him"

http://blog.sfgate.com/warriors/2011/12/11/jerry-west-on-deandre-jordan-im-just-not-really-sure-about-him/

Ya, I'm not sure we can absolutely infer that West thought highly of DJ. I remember a lot of ppl thinking it was more strategic at that time for GSW, since I believe we would have tried to offer DJ less. So on one hand, you could end up with DJ which wasn't terrible at the time. On the other hand, you force your division rivals to open their checkbooks. They forced us to bet on DJ.

Jun 16, 2017 6:16pm
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I think it's less likely we trade for Carmelo now that West is here. Crawford also does not seem like a West type of guy so maybe he'll be gone

Jun 16, 2017 6:32pm
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Might have to let Doc go to be truthful. I don't mind Austin on the team at all but this family shit really screws up the team. How in the hell is Jerry going to say to Doc, "Lets dump your son and Crawford for Melo". Or "You need to give the back up big minutes to Stone and Brice"..  I can keep going for days. All bullshit aside.. Lets take off the rose colored glasses for a minute. I love the Jerry West move to death just like the rest of you guys but how in the f*ck is this shit going to work when Doc traditionally does every opposite of what Jerry West is known for?

 

-Jerry is always looking for the next good or great young guy- Doc doesn't play young guys

-Jerry dreams of the draft and is a draft aficionado- Doc is shit at drafting, gives away 1st rounders, and never plays the players he drafts

-Jerry wants a quality bench that has length and athleticism- Doc "Where's my old Celtics-geritol gang at? Holla if ya hear me!!"

 

 

-Something has got to give. I could see if their traits were similar but they're the polar opposite. This is a water and oil combination at its finest

Jun 16, 2017 6:40pm
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Will become official on Monday... perfect timing, right before the draft...

Jun 16, 2017 7:16pm
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I kinda still don't believe it.