DJ Wants To Stay With Clippers

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#1 Mar 2, 2018 10:22am
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DJ Wants To Stay With Clippers

Mar 2, 2018 10:32am
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"Like I told somebody the other day, I hope I can play another 10 years here. That’s what I’m focused on now."

 

Who did he tell?

Mar 2, 2018 10:34am
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What do you think of Michael Lee, the Yahoo writer?

 

I've never noticed him before.  How does he get his sources?  Is he reputable?

 

Is this just a flattering piece?

 

Did he talk to people inside Jordan's crew?

Mar 2, 2018 10:41am
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We'll see come negotiating time.

Mar 2, 2018 10:41am
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JGlanton wrote:

Ok so is he willing to take a pay cut? If so, welcome DJ!

Mar 2, 2018 10:44am
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His words say he wants to be here, but his play says he wants out. If he really wanted to stay, he wouldn't be quitting on us and mailing it in.

Mar 2, 2018 11:41am
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If he is mailing it in he is killing any chance he has of getting a max contract from anybody this summer.  He is in a contract year.  Guess what?  Players don't mail it in in a contract year.  What you see is what we are going to get if we re-sign him.  And yes I would stick to the 22% of payroll number I mentioned in previous posts.  Can't pay a guy 35% who is a defensive specialist and rebounder.  But I would love to have him back at the 22% price.

Mar 2, 2018 12:12pm
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I do think a person can be distracted by the potential of losing their job and being pushed outside their comfort zone such that it harms their performance, even when that very performance is what's being judged to determine if they should be able to keep their job. Humans are emotional beings who can be distracted by uncertainty. It doesn't have to make logical sense.

Mar 2, 2018 12:15pm
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Dj been feeling ill the last few days, I give him a pass vs the Rockets. He didn't play well but did rebound good..

Mar 2, 2018 12:52pm
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Lets see how he plays from here on out.. He had a good 3-4 game stretch but played like sh*t against the Nuggets and Rockets

Mar 2, 2018 5:43pm
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If anything at least it does paint the current locker room in a positive light. I do believe there is something to a group that likes each other that's going to play better than their individual parts and reading between the lines I think the locker room was not good at all the last couple of years.

 

Not that it's all that important but it is interesting he gave kind of a weak endorsement on he and Blake's friendship going forward. They seemed so tight before and I'm sure they will remain friends, but he seems closer to other guys now.

Mar 2, 2018 8:22pm
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So no one has opinions on how reputable Michael Lee is as a reporter?

Mar 3, 2018 6:53am
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DJ has a chance to be the only Clipper for life in history. 

Mar 3, 2018 8:19am
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I take DJ at his word, but let’s be honest, this is also a PR move. If negotiations fall through between the FO and DJ, DJ can shape the narrative by saying he always wanted to be here. Thus, he can save face with the fans if he were to walk. 

Separate question: for those of you who want DJ to get less than the max, would you agree to a multi-year less than max deal for DJ if it came with a no trade clause or a trade kicker? 

Mar 3, 2018 8:34am
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A trade kicker, OK. Not a no-trade though. 

Mar 3, 2018 8:35am
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4 year, $80 million?

Mar 3, 2018 9:30am
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WindsorUK wrote:

4 year, $80 million?

He's due to get $24M next year as it is.  He should get $110M-$120M over 4 years, with an option for a 5th.

He should at least get Steven Adams money. Or Chandler Parsons money, LOL.  Hell, useless Brook Lopez makes $22M

He's a lot more valuable than Blake Griffin who gets $30M.  We don't get any dropoff when Blake leaves.  If DJ leaves, we become Charlotte or Chicago. 

Mar 3, 2018 11:54am
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JGlanton wrote:

WindsorUK wrote:

4 year, $80 million?

He's due to get $24M next year as it is.  He should get $110M-$120M over 4 years, with an option for a 5th.

He should at least get Steven Adams money. Or Chandler Parsons money, LOL.  Hell, useless Brook Lopez makes $22M

He's a lot more valuable than Blake Griffin who gets $30M.  We don't get any dropoff when Blake leaves.  If DJ leaves, we become Charlotte or Chicago. 

 

From what I've been hearing that type money is isn't around anymore.

Mar 3, 2018 12:44pm
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He should at least get the same deal we gave Gallo, but longer. 4 years 80-90 mill or 5 years 100-110 mill seems about right to me.

DJ is still only 29, he does what he does really well and he is one of the most durable players in the league. I can definitely see him playing well through age 35.

The main thing with DJ is that you don't want to let him leave for nothing. Just like Blake, it's better to overpay him, keep him and trade him later than it is to let him leave and get nothing in return. You want to retain that asset if you can.

Mar 3, 2018 3:58pm
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trapp76 wrote:

He should at least get the same deal we gave Gallo, but longer. 4 years 80-90 mill or 5 years 100-110 mill seems about right to me.

DJ is still only 29, he does what he does really well and he is one of the most durable players in the league. I can definitely see him playing well through age 35.

The main thing with DJ is that you don't want to let him leave for nothing. Just like Blake, it's better to overpay him, keep him and trade him later than it is to let him leave and get nothing in return. You want to retain that asset if you can.

I agree. I would love to see him retire as a Clipper.

 

Mar 3, 2018 4:26pm
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JGlanton wrote:

WindsorUK wrote:

4 year, $80 million?

He's due to get $24M next year as it is.  He should get $110M-$120M over 4 years, with an option for a 5th.

He should at least get Steven Adams money. Or Chandler Parsons money, LOL.  Hell, useless Brook Lopez makes $22M

He's a lot more valuable than Blake Griffin who gets $30M.  We don't get any dropoff when Blake leaves.  If DJ leaves, we become Charlotte or Chicago. 

 

He may deserve it especially over all of those guys besides Adams, but those contracts are total albatrosses now. DJ's wouldn't be that since he's actually good, but there isn't likely going to be other teams bidding those type of deals. 4 for 80-90 sounds about right in the current Center market.  Most of the money going forward will be reserved for wings or young guys with star potential.

Mar 3, 2018 5:30pm
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Guys like Drummund, Gobert and Whiteside all got paid just a few years ago. Howard got over 20 million a year just this offseason and is older, worse, less durable and a headcase. Top level players are still going to get paid. If there is a crunch it will be above mle but nowhere near max guys, basically it will become more like the old days of stars at the top and almost everyone else being mle or less.
Mar 3, 2018 6:01pm
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Howard would probably not get above the MLE on a longer term deal if he was a FA this year. Those other guys would all get paid still because they're young, but I don't think any contenders would be looking to max out traditional Centers.

Mar 3, 2018 9:38pm
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All things being equal, I'm sure DJ would much prefer remaining a Clipper, finishing his career here, becoming the first Clipper to ever be with the team from start to finish, get his number retired and his jersey hung from the rafter. The Clippers may have had a pathetic past but those days are over. With Balmer as the owner, 10-15 years from now that pathetic past will be ancient history and DJ's legacy would be etched in the marble of one of the premiere franchises in the NBA.

But that's all things being equal. Two other gardens where the grass may look greener to him are 1) a serious championship contender or 2) significantly more money,

In any given year, there are really only 2-4 serious championship contenders. DJ will not get an offer from the Warriors or the Rockets or anywhere Lebron is likely to go. So scenario #1 is not a likely one, leaving scenario #2: Who would offer DJ a better contract than whatever the Clippers are willing to offer and why exactly would they do that? No one is ever going to offer him anywhere near max money, that's Anthony Davis, Joel Embiid territory. DJ is not in that class. It will be significantly less. So I think if he gets a better offer, it will be better by a little, not a lot.

I'm thinking DJ will most likely be a Clipper next year and probably for life.

Mar 4, 2018 12:17am
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CorkScrew wrote:

 

All things being equal, I'm sure DJ would much prefer remaining a Clipper, finishing his career here, becoming the first Clipper to ever be with the team from start to finish, get his number retired and his jersey hung from the rafter. The Clippers may have had a pathetic past but those days are over. With Balmer as the owner, 10-15 years from now that pathetic past will be ancient history and DJ's legacy would be etched in the marble of one of the premiere franchises in the NBA.

But that's all things being equal. Two other gardens where the grass may look greener to him are 1) a serious championship contender or 2) significantly more money,

In any given year, there are really only 2-4 serious championship contenders. DJ will not get an offer from the Warriors or the Rockets or anywhere Lebron is likely to go. So scenario #1 is not a likely one, leaving scenario #2: Who would offer DJ a better contract than whatever the Clippers are willing to offer and why exactly would they do that? No one is ever going to offer him anywhere near max money, that's Anthony Davis, Joel Embiid territory. DJ is not in that class. It will be significantly less. So I think if he gets a better offer, it will be better by a little, not a lot.

I'm thinking DJ will most likely be a Clipper next year and probably for life.

I think there's a good chance he opts in and waits for summer of 2019 when more money is available.

Mar 5, 2018 9:33pm
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gilp5 wrote:

CorkScrew wrote:

 

All things being equal, I'm sure DJ would much prefer remaining a Clipper, finishing his career here, becoming the first Clipper to ever be with the team from start to finish, get his number retired and his jersey hung from the rafter. The Clippers may have had a pathetic past but those days are over. With Balmer as the owner, 10-15 years from now that pathetic past will be ancient history and DJ's legacy would be etched in the marble of one of the premiere franchises in the NBA.

But that's all things being equal. Two other gardens where the grass may look greener to him are 1) a serious championship contender or 2) significantly more money,

In any given year, there are really only 2-4 serious championship contenders. DJ will not get an offer from the Warriors or the Rockets or anywhere Lebron is likely to go. So scenario #1 is not a likely one, leaving scenario #2: Who would offer DJ a better contract than whatever the Clippers are willing to offer and why exactly would they do that? No one is ever going to offer him anywhere near max money, that's Anthony Davis, Joel Embiid territory. DJ is not in that class. It will be significantly less. So I think if he gets a better offer, it will be better by a little, not a lot.

I'm thinking DJ will most likely be a Clipper next year and probably for life.

I think there's a good chance he opts in and waits for summer of 2019 when more money is available.

 

There's a good chance that's what this quote is really about. He might be spinning it a little to make it look like that's why he opted in.

Mar 6, 2018 8:30am
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nuraman00 wrote:

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"Like I told somebody the other day, I hope I can play another 10 years here. That’s what I’m focused on now."

 

Who did he tell?

He said that to a reporter in an interview, man.

Mar 10, 2018 2:42pm
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Shaliq wrote:

nuraman00 wrote:

Quote:
"Like I told somebody the other day, I hope I can play another 10 years here. That’s what I’m focused on now."

 

Who did he tell?

He said that to a reporter in an interview, man.

 

Thanks.

Mar 10, 2018 2:42pm
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nuraman00 wrote:

What do you think of Michael Lee, the Yahoo writer?

 

I've never noticed him before.  How does he get his sources?  Is he reputable?

 

Is this just a flattering piece?

 

Did he talk to people inside Jordan's crew?

 

Any thoughts on how reputable Michael Lee is?

Mar 10, 2018 3:25pm
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What do we do w/ Dj? I'm starting to changed my mind about letting him walk away... He's playing very well.

Mar 10, 2018 3:44pm
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Jerry West was sitting courtside at the game last night.  He will know what to do with DJ.  And he is the one who can convince DJ to stay for a reasonable amount of money.  I think DJ likes L.A. and his new teammates.  Plus, I think he likes the fans and the practice facility.  Plus, he knows he never has to be a top banana scorer here.  Plus, he likes Doc Rivers.  Lots of things to consider when he decides whether to leave for more money.

Mar 10, 2018 5:12pm
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Lebron says DJ would have given them a nice boost. I think he realizes that the Cavs should have gone for a true game changing role player

Mar 11, 2018 1:42pm (Reply to #32)
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Hitnrun24 wrote:

Lebron says DJ would have given them a nice boost. I think he realizes that the Cavs should have gone for a true game changing role player

 

What was his exact quote?

Mar 11, 2018 1:58pm
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I have to applaud Jerry West for not caving in resigning DJ to an inflated contract. I think most people want a reasonable contract, but what the magic number is hard to say. I'm sure there are some centers of DJs caliber that got a massive contract, but I think we should not fall into trends. Rather we should sign guys to contracts that won't hamstring us in the future
Mar 11, 2018 2:10pm
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We'll have to pay whatever the market will bear to keep DJ. And we should pay it. That's why DJ will opt out, if he does opt out.  The Clips should tell DJ "go find your best offer, bring it to us and we will beat it". 

We'd have a W-L record like the Suns or Mavs if we didn't have DJ.