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Las Vegas Summer League official thread(Clipps and entire league)
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07/14/18 » 4:05pm
Montrezl Harrell Drama
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07/13/18 » 9:03pm
Do we still need another big?
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8 Hitnrun24
07/13/18 » 6:54pm
Why didn't James meet with the Clippers this time?
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07/13/18 » 4:07pm
Hello All
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Press Release: L.A. Clippers Sign Forward Mike Scott
The L.A. Clippers have signed free-agent forward Mike Scott, it was announced today by Clippers President of Basketball Operations, Lawrence Frank. Per team policy, terms of the agreement were not released. RSS
Press Release: L.A. Clippers Re-Sign Avery Bradley
The L.A. Clippers have re-signed free-agent guard Avery Bradley, it was announced today by President of Basketball Operations, Lawrence Frank. Per team policy, terms of the agreement were not released.
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Los Angeles Clippers should explore a Tobias Harris trade with the Raptors

In what has become a common trend here at LA Sports Hub, we think that the Los Angeles Clippers are better suited to sell talent, not buy. The Los Angeles Clippers are only setting the team up for long-term mediocrity with the current plan that the front office is initiating. I understand the desire to […]

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Clippers, Led by Thornwell and Gilgeous-Alexander, Top Kings 88-78

The Clippers’ top prospects all seemed to take a step forward in game 2.

David Michineau is back, baby.

The Sacramento Kings set the tone early in tonight’s game: they were bigger and stronger, and second-year forward Justin Jackson was stellar early in the game, keeping the Clippers on their heels defensively. But as the game wore on, the Clippers’ young roster grew into the game, handing the physicality and slowing Jackson down. Led primarily by players who will be on LAC’s roster next season, the Summer Clippers orchestrated a comeback to get the game close at the end of the third quarter, and then ran away with the game in the fourth. They won the period 22-12, reflecting their 88-78 margin of victory.

  • Shai Gilgeous-Alexander: The Clippers’ prize point guard had a much better stat line tonight (21 points, 8 rebounds, 2 assists, 3 steals on 8-16 shooting), but while his talents are obviously on display, I’m still looking for a little more from him. His decision-making in these games is obviously impacted by the players who are around him, but I want to see more of his passing and vision on display. We’ve gotten glimpses of it, but I’d like to see a little more in the coming days. His shot selection, while better tonight, could still use a little work—coach Casey Hill said after the game that “there’s a steak in there, but we have to trim a little fat.” Still, it’s hard to complain about what the 19-year-old guard is showing in terms of poise and leadership.
  • Sindarius Thornwell: It’s always hard to extrapolate meaningful player projections from summer league, but it’s safe to say that players with NBA experience should be a step above the rest—they’re going down a level in competition to play in Summer League. Sindarius still has work to do on his game, but he’s clearly a man among boys here in Las Vegas. While it’s hard to gauge how good he actually is because a lot of what he’s doing won’t translate against actual NBA talent, he’s separating himself from the rest of the fringe guys here, which can only be a good thing. One real note, though: his jumper still isn’t perfect, but his release is notably quicker and smoother than it was last season. He knows that he has to consistently make corner threes to stay on the floor, he’s dedicated himself to improving his shot, and he said tonight that his confidence is at an all-time high.
  • Jawun Evans: I was really disappointed in Jawun’s first game in Vegas, and the start of tonight’s game had me worried. But as the game wore on, he seemed to find himself. The slow start may be a result of rust (he hasn’t played extended minutes since January due to injury), but it’s good to see him get going. He hasn’t separated himself from the pack in the way that Sindarius has, but that’s okay for right now. Jawun’s defense was a big part of what turned this game for the Clippers, and he hit a big corner three in the fourth to keep the ball rolling on the team’s impressive run.
  • David Michineau: Okay, I might be going a little off the rails here, but I was happy to see David get some run tonight after not playing in the first game, and I was especially thrilled to see him playing so well. He didn’t do anything amazing, but he was on the floor and a factor during the Clippers’ big fourth-quarter run, scoring twice on a couple of aggressive drives and adding two assists and a steal. He’s not NBA-ready (and the Clippers certainly don’t have room for another guard), and his situation in France would make a G-League stint a poor financial decision—but it’s good to see a guy who is in the Clippers’ system long-term making progression towards hopefully someday being NBA-caliber. David Michineau is a summer league legend and we must protect him.

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Facing a logjam, Clippers guards Thornwell and Evans ready to compete for spots

They earned spots in the Clippers’ rotation last season as rookies, both Sindarius Thornwell and Jawun Evans carving out their niche as defense-oriented guards, their playing time increasing as injuries to teammates mounted.

Now, the two second-round draft picks are almost afterthoughts because...

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Game Preview: Clippers Take on Kings in Summer League

The Clippers play game two of their Las Vegas Summer League slate tonight against the Sacramento Kings.

With one Summer League game in the books, Clippers’ fans have been eagerly awaiting game two of Jerome Robinson and Shai Gilgeous-Alexander in Clippers uniforms. The Clips will take on the Sacramento Kings at 8:00 PM Pacific Time tonight at Cox Pavilion on NBATv. Here’s a few things to look for in tonight’s contest:

Shooting, shooting, shooting: The Clippers shot 7-26 from deep in their first game, and most of those looks were wide open. Worse, the Clippers’ rookies were only 3-12, a poor number that will hopefully improve tonight. While numbers aren’t very important in Summer League, bricking open threes is never a good sign. Jerome is ready to shoot as soon as he’s open, but I’d like to see the other Clippers’ roster guys (Shai, Jawun Evans, Sindarius Thornwell) be a little more willing to pull from deep when given the chance. All of them need to work on their shots, and there’s no better practice than getting reps in live gameplay!

Jerome on-ball: As Lucas said in his recap Friday night, Jerome Robinson spent most of his time off the ball in the Clippers’ first game. I do think that he needs to work on that part of his game, because almost everyone in the NBA outside of the very top playmakers spend a good portion of their time off-ball, but I also would love to see him unleashed running the pick and roll with Shai moving off the ball. He’s the best shooter on this Summer League (and it’s not close), which makes him an interesting lead option (especially in the Summer League setting). Robinson’s ability to get shots off and create for others is invaluable on a Clippers’ SL team that struggled to get good looks at times, and he could score 30 points easily if given the full green light. While the Clippers might be looking to see other things from him, as they know he can handle and score, it would still be fun to see him get going with the ball in his hands.

Different rotations: The Clippers played 11 guys on Friday, with one of those (Jaylen Johnson) only getting two minutes. Summer League is an opportunity for everyone on the roster to prove themselves, so expect to see at least a couple of the guys who didn’t get minutes in game one get some run tonight. That bucket includes former Clippers’ draft pick David Michineau, sharp-shooting guard Jordan Matthews, versatile scorer Bogdan Bliznyuk, and forward Tyler Harris.

Jawun redemption: Jawun Evans had a rough opening game, scoring six points on the same number of shots with two turnovers in just 12 minutes of game time. He’s a player who should excel in Summer League due to his speed and passing ability, and it would be great to see him get into more of a rhythm tonight. Look for him to push the pace a bit more in this game and have a bounceback performance. Still, the best sign from him would be a bit more patience on offense, and demonstrating the ability to slow down instead of going full speed all the time.

Vincent Hunter: Vince was the only Clippers’ big man to play well in game one, scoring nine points and pulling down eight boards in just 14 minutes. He was perfect from the field, and had the most energy and bounce of any of the big men. That makes him a suitable matchup against Kings’ power forward Marvin Bagley, who’s extremely athletic and will be a tough cover for Grant Jerrett or Angel Delgado.

Kings’ Players: The aforementioned Bagley is the Kings’ biggest-name player, as he was taken 2nd in the 2018 NBA Draft just a few weeks ago. He hasn’t had a great Summer League so far, but that might make him all the hungrier tonight. More impressive has been last year’s 20th pick Harry Giles, who spent all year rehabbing an injury, but who has demonstrated some of the talent that made him one of the top-ranked high school players in the country. The Kings are also running out point guard Frank Mason and wing Justin Jackson, both of whom are second-year NBA players and capable of getting hot from deep. Finally, Ike Iroegbu, a standout on the Agua Caliente Clippers last year, has been playing minutes for the Kings off the bench. He too, can be a phenomenal scorer when he gets going.

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Rookie Shai Gilgeous-Alexander shows all-around skills during Clippers debut

Shai Gilgeous-Alexander dribbled the ball in his left hand on the left wing as Golden State’s Josh Magette shaded the Clippers rookie to the right while Warriors teammate Jordan Bell feigned help defense on the baseline.

Gilgeous-Alexander hesitated his dribble for a brief moment as he scanned...

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What Should We Be Looking for in Summer League?

Every year NBA fans lose their minds over young prospects’ play in Summer League. Does anything actually matter in Summer League? If so, what?

When NBA fans have top prospects on their Summer League teams, their performance is highly scrutinized. This is fine— it’s what fans do. And it also makes sense. When the players in question are rookies, it is the fans’ first chance to see them in NBA uniforms, their first look at the rookies in a setting even close to approximating the NBA. If the players are veterans, fans are excited to see what they’ve added to their games since the end of the season, and how they look against lesser competition. Basically, there are legitimate reasons to pay attention to Summer League, and get excited for it.

There is also some evidence that Summer League play can provide real insight into NBA success. This is more true in negative cases: if a player struggles hard in Summer League, regular NBA play is unlikely to be any easier for them. The key with Summer League is not necessarily to look at stats, but at skills, and how likely they are to translate to the NBA.

Take, for example, the Clippers’ game yesterday. As Lucas already wrote about in the recap, Sindarius Thornwell was the Clippers’ standout player yesterday, leading their offensive efforts and contributing strong defensive play. His stats looked fantastic. But stats are misleading in Summer League. Teams are playing with little practice time, and certain types of play are rewarded more than others.

Thornwell played really well yesterday. But he played in a way that’s difficult to see succeeding at the NBA level. On offense, he mostly went straight at defensive players, using his superior strength and size to muscle his way to the hoop and finish over defenders. The average player who will be guarding Thornwell in the NBA will be bigger, stronger, and better defensively than the smaller guards he trampled Friday night. Rather than showcasing an improved finishing ability, or flashing tightened handles, Thornwell played much the same as he did last year in the NBA, but with better results because the quality of play was lower.

Shai Gilgeous-Alexander, on the other hand, shot a mere 5-19 from the field. If you just looked at the boxscore, you’d think he had a bad game. But he demonstrated the precise skills and abilities that made him such a desired prospect, and did so in ways that promise translation to the NBA. He was measured on the court. He got to his spots whenever he wanted. The Clippers’ offense looked noticeably better with him on the court, running more smoothly and generating easier looks. Those are traits that you want to see from any point guard, and having them all shown by a rookie in his first game was truly impressive. Shai has issues. His “spots”, more often than not, are midrange jumpers and long floaters, and those are difficult, inefficient shots that he settles for too easily. His shot in general, especially from deep, clearly needs work. But the passing, the quickness, and the smooth handles are qualities that should be present at the next level.

In general, stats just aren’t as important in Summer League. If someone is missing all their threes, or shooting a horrible percentage from the field, that’s obviously not a good sign. But even more than regular NBA play, Summer League is context dependent. The sample sizes are small, teams aren’t truly built to fit or play well together, and practice time is low. So, when watching Summer League, pay attention not to the results, but to process, and approach. The goal of Summer League isn’t to win the games, but to showcase talents that will be useful in the NBA. Players, therefore, should be evaluated in the same manner.

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Los Angeles Clippers: Trading for Kawhi Leonard would be a mistake

After weeks of speculation regarding Kawhi Leonard and the Los Angeles Lakers, the Los Angeles Clippers have emerged as the new favorites to land Leonard. The Los Angeles Lakers have naturally been connected to Kawhi Leonard due to his current status in San Antonio and his desire to play in Los Angeles. However, despite signing […]

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Las Vegas Summer League Game Recap: Clippers Drop Opener to Warriors, 77-71

The Summer Clippers stumbled in their first game together as a team.

Summer league basketball is almost never aesthetically pleasing, but for much of tonight’s game between the Los Angeles Clippers and Golden State Warriors, it was worse: the entire atmosphere in the arena was lacking as the tenth and final game of the day, featuring no headliner stars, played out in front of an almost empty Thomas and Mack Center.

It’s hard to take much away from the Clippers’ performance tonight as a group, but that’s fine—this team’s success is meaningless. For the record, however, the Clippers did manage to win two of the four quarters in tonight’s game, giving them two “quarter points” which count in their favor in a potential tiebreaker for playoff seeding.

Here’s some brief notes on what different Clippers showed us on an individual level tonight:

  • Shai Gilgeous-Alexander: Boy, is this guy a special basketball player. The box score stats, which aren’t great, don’t speak to the poise and comfort that SGA displayed tonight. While he shot a disappointing 5-19 from the field, most of his attempts were quality mid-range looks, where his patience and length allow him to consistently produce the shots that he wants. The issue comes with the efficiency from that spot—the mid-range game has largely become extinct in the NBA because it can’t mathematically compete with attempts from the rim or three. Shai needs to be more selective with his mid-range shot and use it as a counter to help himself get to the rim, and he definitely needs to work on his effectiveness from range. All that being said, there’s just a certain aspect to Shai’s game that’s undeniable:

Shai Gilgeous-Alexander has It™️

— Summer League Lucas (@LucasJHann) July 7, 2018
  • Jerome Robinson: I was a little surprised at how small Jerome’s role was today—he barely got chances to produce on the ball, mostly serving as a finisher of offensive plays than a creator of looks. It’s certainly a safe role for him as a rookie, but it would be nice to see a little more experimentation with his offensive game, letting him try to break down defenders off of the dribble. Robinson also only shot 2-7 from deep tonight, which was disappointing, but we have a large enough sample size to know that he’s a very good shooter who just missed some shots today. The rest of his game—the aforementioned creative development, and his performance defensively—will determine what his role can be in the NBA.
  • Sindarius Thornwell: Thornwell was easily the player of the game for the Clippers tonight, totaling 18 points, 7 rebounds, 2 assist, 2 blocks, and 1 steal. But it’s hard to see which portions of his offensive game will translate consistently against real NBA competition. He has a tendency to bully his way to the rim, which is less effective against bigger, stronger NBA athletes, and despite hitting two threes tonight, his shot form doesn’t seem to have been corrected since the end of the regular season. It’s the other end of the floor—his energy, defensive quickness and positioning, and strength/length to switch across positions are the real assets that make him an interesting prospect. Combined with the length of Shai at the point guard position, and Jerome’s solid size at SG, it gave the Clippers a versatile, deflection-happy perimeter defensive unit tonight.
  • Jawun Evans: There’s no putting it lightly: Jawun was really bad tonight. He shot 2-6 from the field, had 0 assists and 2 turnovers, and finished -19 in 12 minutes. In a game that the Clippers only lost by 6, that’s a big swing for the second unit to give up, and Jawun was the catalyst in their shortcomings. Fortunately, it’s just one summer league game, and it doesn’t mean much. We know that Jawun is capable of more after his performances at the NBA level last season. However, his summer league performances, combined with off-season workouts and training camp, could determine whether the team has room for him on the roster next season. He’ll have to prove his value over Sindarius Thornwell, who has more traditional NBA size and was more impressive tonight, to be safe.
  • The Bench: This Clippers’ team isn’t replete with fringe NBA talent, and it shows. Outside of the team’s big three of SGA, Robinson, and Thornwell, only Vince Hunter (9 points, 8 rebounds on 3-3 shooting in 12 minutes) really contributed positively. The substitutes, aside from Hunter and Evans, shot 0-11 from the field. All Clippers aside from Hunter and the big three combined for 5-30 from the field. It doesn’t really matter what the makeup of your team is—you aren’t going to have success when contributions from your supporting cast are that sparse.
  • DNP-CD: It’s hard for a coach to play 15 guys every night, so even in the summer league, players often have to rotate turns riding the pine. Tonight, that was David Michineau, Jordan Matthews, Tyler Harris, and Bogdan Bliznyuk. I expect that all of them will get opportunities in coming games, especially if the team starts to lower the minutes of their higher-profile prospects to protect them from potential injury.

The Clippers’ next game is Sunday, July 8th, against the Sacramento Kings at 8:00 PM on NBATV.